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	<title>Comments on: Alexa web statistics &#8211; say what?</title>
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		<title>By: zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your inputs, Peter and Moti.

This proves something that I have been thinking about lately. Just the act of &lt;b&gt;writing down&lt;/b&gt; the problem helps to solve it, or at least helps to make it clearer.

I find this when I have a programming problem. It has happened a few times that I have started to pose my question in some online forum, and in the process of expressing the problem clearly, it has helped me to see the solution.

I attended a talk once that was on &quot;Problem posing in mathematics&quot;. The teacher got the students to pose their own problems (not answer the teacher&#039;s problems). The act of thinking through and posing an intelligent problem that &quot;worked&quot; was a valuable learning experience in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your inputs, Peter and Moti.</p>
<p>This proves something that I have been thinking about lately. Just the act of <b>writing down</b> the problem helps to solve it, or at least helps to make it clearer.</p>
<p>I find this when I have a programming problem. It has happened a few times that I have started to pose my question in some online forum, and in the process of expressing the problem clearly, it has helped me to see the solution.</p>
<p>I attended a talk once that was on &#8220;Problem posing in mathematics&#8221;. The teacher got the students to pose their own problems (not answer the teacher&#8217;s problems). The act of thinking through and posing an intelligent problem that &#8220;worked&#8221; was a valuable learning experience in itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Moti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]The Daily Reach for both of them is around 280,000 &#8220;per million&#8221;, which means out of each million randomly selected web users, 280,000 of them will be Yahoo and another 280,000 will be Google. That seems to have &#8220;used up&#8221; over half of all Web users, with just 2 sites. I don&#8217;t think so, or perhaps I am missing something.[/quote]

I believe that they mean 280k/million but not 280k that don&#8217;t visit another site. Thus, it could be the same 280k.

That said, and revisiting your log/semi-log curves. The distribution of market share [various measures would work] of various segments looks like your semi-log or log-log [depends] examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]The Daily Reach for both of them is around 280,000 &ldquo;per million&rdquo;, which means out of each million randomly selected web users, 280,000 of them will be Yahoo and another 280,000 will be Google. That seems to have &ldquo;used up&rdquo; over half of all Web users, with just 2 sites. I don&rsquo;t think so, or perhaps I am missing something.[/quote]</p>
<p>I believe that they mean 280k/million but not 280k that don&rsquo;t visit another site. Thus, it could be the same 280k.</p>
<p>That said, and revisiting your log/semi-log curves. The distribution of market share [various measures would work] of various segments looks like your semi-log or log-log [depends] examples.</p>
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		<title>By: MathNerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>MathNerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, &quot;rank&quot; is where you come in the Web&#039;s pecking order. Rank #1 is Yahoo (they get the most visitors to the most pages) and Rank #283,846 means you&#039;ve got a ways to go before catching up.

As for the geometric mean, I think they really are talking about the time series of values, not the product of the number of visitors times the number of pages, as you have put.

According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buzzardsbay.org/geomean.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Buzzards Bay&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;A geometric mean, unlike an arithmetic mean, tends to dampen the effect of very high or low values, which might bias the mean if a straight average (arithmetic mean) were calculated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it sounds like Alexa is finding the geometric mean of several days&#039; worth of stats, which can vary wildly.

I agree with you that there are some confusing definitions in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, &#8220;rank&#8221; is where you come in the Web&#8217;s pecking order. Rank #1 is Yahoo (they get the most visitors to the most pages) and Rank #283,846 means you&#8217;ve got a ways to go before catching up.</p>
<p>As for the geometric mean, I think they really are talking about the time series of values, not the product of the number of visitors times the number of pages, as you have put.</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.buzzardsbay.org/geomean.htm" rel="nofollow">Buzzards Bay</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>A geometric mean, unlike an arithmetic mean, tends to dampen the effect of very high or low values, which might bias the mean if a straight average (arithmetic mean) were calculated.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it sounds like Alexa is finding the geometric mean of several days&#8217; worth of stats, which can vary wildly.</p>
<p>I agree with you that there are some confusing definitions in there.</p>
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