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		<title>Comment on IntMath Newsletter: Google Science Fair, e Day, math products by ahmed</title>
		<link>http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/intmath-newsletter-google-science-fair-e-day-math-products/7017/comment-page-1#comment-403849</link>
		<dc:creator>ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Sir,
i  have not been in touch with you for ages-----will mend my ways in 2012.

This bit is good :  &quot;  ---Often, math class is boring because it lacks creativity. John Updike, 20th century novelist and short story writer, had this to say about how seemingly mundane tasks can be made more creative:

    An activity becomes creative when the doer cares about doing it right, or better. [John Updike]

There is plenty of scope for making math more creative. Start with the many connections with art, music and sports, and aim to do it better!---&quot;

When one teaches Calculus to the higher secondary school level pupils ,  their motivation is ,generally , high.
The problem is to turn their vision from the idea of * just 
doing well in the Final Exams.*   to  taking interest in the mathematical background of Calculus as an intellectual advance of all mankind.
Any one can pass * examinations*  ; what distillate one takes beyond the examination is mathematical CULTURE !!

Regards

ahmed
Manali,
Himachal Pradesh,
INDIA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sir,<br />
i  have not been in touch with you for ages&#8212;&#8211;will mend my ways in 2012.</p>
<p>This bit is good :  &#8221;  &#8212;Often, math class is boring because it lacks creativity. John Updike, 20th century novelist and short story writer, had this to say about how seemingly mundane tasks can be made more creative:</p>
<p>    An activity becomes creative when the doer cares about doing it right, or better. [John Updike]</p>
<p>There is plenty of scope for making math more creative. Start with the many connections with art, music and sports, and aim to do it better!&#8212;&#8221;</p>
<p>When one teaches Calculus to the higher secondary school level pupils ,  their motivation is ,generally , high.<br />
The problem is to turn their vision from the idea of * just<br />
doing well in the Final Exams.*   to  taking interest in the mathematical background of Calculus as an intellectual advance of all mankind.<br />
Any one can pass * examinations*  ; what distillate one takes beyond the examination is mathematical CULTURE !!</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>ahmed<br />
Manali,<br />
Himachal Pradesh,<br />
INDIA</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tanzalin Method for easier Integration by Parts by Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard: Thanks for the comments - and for the extra resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard: Thanks for the comments &#8211; and for the extra resource.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tanzalin Method for easier Integration by Parts by Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is excellent but I think it would be well worth mentioning that this method does not &quot;only handle integrals involving (at least one) polynomial expressions&quot;--it does!  

In example 4, you can stop at line 2 and treat the integral of the product of the terms as the &quot;remainder&quot; term.  In general, any time the product of two columns is something easily integrable (not in my spell checker) you can stop and take the integral.

Nicely worked examples using this (tabular) method here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mccd.edu/faculty/powerd/M4b/M4b_L3_IBP.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mccd.edu/faculty/powerd/M4b/M4b_L3_IBP.htm&lt;/a&gt;

This method also works for Int (e^x sin(x)) when you realize that the 3rd line is the same as the 1st.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excellent but I think it would be well worth mentioning that this method does not &#8220;only handle integrals involving (at least one) polynomial expressions&#8221;&#8211;it does!  </p>
<p>In example 4, you can stop at line 2 and treat the integral of the product of the terms as the &#8220;remainder&#8221; term.  In general, any time the product of two columns is something easily integrable (not in my spell checker) you can stop and take the integral.</p>
<p>Nicely worked examples using this (tabular) method here: <a href="http://www.mccd.edu/faculty/powerd/M4b/M4b_L3_IBP.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mccd.edu/faculty/powerd/M4b/M4b_L3_IBP.htm</a></p>
<p>This method also works for Int (e^x sin(x)) when you realize that the 3rd line is the same as the 1st.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Average speed and percentage by Starfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let t be the time taken to cover the distance with 60 kmph. 
Then 2t is the time taken to cover the distance with 30 kmph.

The total distance covered is 60t km, t being in hours.
(At one time only)

When you come and go back, it is 120t km.

You spent 3t time (2t+t) covering a distance of 120t km. Hence, your average velocity is 120t km/3t h= 40 kmph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let t be the time taken to cover the distance with 60 kmph.<br />
Then 2t is the time taken to cover the distance with 30 kmph.</p>
<p>The total distance covered is 60t km, t being in hours.<br />
(At one time only)</p>
<p>When you come and go back, it is 120t km.</p>
<p>You spent 3t time (2t+t) covering a distance of 120t km. Hence, your average velocity is 120t km/3t h= 40 kmph.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Logarithms &#8211; a visual introduction by Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not boring, Garrett! Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not boring, Garrett! Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Logarithms &#8211; a visual introduction by Garrett Mackelprang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett Mackelprang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave it some more thought and came to the conclusion that this idea is quite use full for finding the base of an unknown log and also for any arbitrary log that you need for a specific circumstance. My circumstances were in the understanding of an exponential rise (1-(e^-1)) or fall (e^-1) curves. (Within limits y=1max &amp; x=5max, this region is the only section of the two plots used in my personal study)

This in a nut shell:

Plot of y=b^x is the arbitrary curve being studied, where b is any arbitrary base (other than zero or +-1), (x,0) is a linear length along the x axis and (0,y) is a nonlinear length along the y axis.

Therefore we get for our arbitrary plotted curve being studied:

y=b^x
b=(x root of(y)
x=logb(y)

From here you can find the base b of an unknown log (if a point y and its corresponding point x are known) or any point for y if x and b are known with the same being true for finding x.

This used in a &quot;real life&quot; example for the decay (exponential fall) of a capacitors stored energy into a resistance:

b=(e^-1)=(x root of(y) (the base used is that of exponential fall)
y=(e^-x) (y=magnitude, in percent)
x=loge^-1(y)=(-1)loge(y) (x=time constant &quot;Tau&quot;=(rC))

(where rC corresponds to seconds in time)

Plotting limits y=1max &amp; x=5max (when practically considered, other wise x=infinity or some arbitrary number usually greater than 5)

To find the 50% magnitude or half the voltage of the capacitor:
y=0.5 (the 50% mark or half voltage)
x=loge(2)=(-1)loge(0.5)

This math stuff interpreted comes out to be 0.69314 * rC equals the point in time that the voltage is one half of its prior maximum.

Boring I know but this helped me out a bunch so I thought I would share this with a real life use example as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave it some more thought and came to the conclusion that this idea is quite use full for finding the base of an unknown log and also for any arbitrary log that you need for a specific circumstance. My circumstances were in the understanding of an exponential rise (1-(e^-1)) or fall (e^-1) curves. (Within limits y=1max &amp; x=5max, this region is the only section of the two plots used in my personal study)</p>
<p>This in a nut shell:</p>
<p>Plot of y=b^x is the arbitrary curve being studied, where b is any arbitrary base (other than zero or +-1), (x,0) is a linear length along the x axis and (0,y) is a nonlinear length along the y axis.</p>
<p>Therefore we get for our arbitrary plotted curve being studied:</p>
<p>y=b^x<br />
b=(x root of(y)<br />
x=logb(y)</p>
<p>From here you can find the base b of an unknown log (if a point y and its corresponding point x are known) or any point for y if x and b are known with the same being true for finding x.</p>
<p>This used in a &#8220;real life&#8221; example for the decay (exponential fall) of a capacitors stored energy into a resistance:</p>
<p>b=(e^-1)=(x root of(y) (the base used is that of exponential fall)<br />
y=(e^-x) (y=magnitude, in percent)<br />
x=loge^-1(y)=(-1)loge(y) (x=time constant &#8220;Tau&#8221;=(rC))</p>
<p>(where rC corresponds to seconds in time)</p>
<p>Plotting limits y=1max &amp; x=5max (when practically considered, other wise x=infinity or some arbitrary number usually greater than 5)</p>
<p>To find the 50% magnitude or half the voltage of the capacitor:<br />
y=0.5 (the 50% mark or half voltage)<br />
x=loge(2)=(-1)loge(0.5)</p>
<p>This math stuff interpreted comes out to be 0.69314 * rC equals the point in time that the voltage is one half of its prior maximum.</p>
<p>Boring I know but this helped me out a bunch so I thought I would share this with a real life use example as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Logarithms &#8211; a visual introduction by Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, Garrett. Totally agree with you! I&#039;ll regard your comment as a valuable addition to the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Garrett. Totally agree with you! I&#8217;ll regard your comment as a valuable addition to the article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Logarithms &#8211; a visual introduction by Garrett Mackelprang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett Mackelprang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 05:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a high school drop out, and from this perspective saw logarithms as strange and mysterious. After siting down for about an hour and playing around with Microsoft Mathematics, I finally came to understand what they are all about. The biggest hurdle is to see things as x &amp; y axis points. One of the biggest things that helped me was understanding that PLOT of log10 is y=10^x this simplified becomes (x root of(y))=10 OR (y^(1/x))=10 WHICH IS MORE POWERFULL THAN log10(x). THIS is what all that mysterious &quot;log(x)&quot; stuff is but more powerful in the sense that you can get the &quot;anitlog&quot; (y value from x value) and the log (x value from the y value) very quickly with one formula, just put in the x or y value and get out the corresponding y or x value (using a calculator of course). Thus all the &quot;strange&quot; rules for logs are seen as the same of those of a arbitrary number to some arbitrary root or fractional power. It would be nice if you would piece this into your already excellent article above, I believe if I saw what I discovered on my own before spending all the time trying to figure it out, it would have speed up my understanding of logs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a high school drop out, and from this perspective saw logarithms as strange and mysterious. After siting down for about an hour and playing around with Microsoft Mathematics, I finally came to understand what they are all about. The biggest hurdle is to see things as x &amp; y axis points. One of the biggest things that helped me was understanding that PLOT of log10 is y=10^x this simplified becomes (x root of(y))=10 OR (y^(1/x))=10 WHICH IS MORE POWERFULL THAN log10(x). THIS is what all that mysterious &#8220;log(x)&#8221; stuff is but more powerful in the sense that you can get the &#8220;anitlog&#8221; (y value from x value) and the log (x value from the y value) very quickly with one formula, just put in the x or y value and get out the corresponding y or x value (using a calculator of course). Thus all the &#8220;strange&#8221; rules for logs are seen as the same of those of a arbitrary number to some arbitrary root or fractional power. It would be nice if you would piece this into your already excellent article above, I believe if I saw what I discovered on my own before spending all the time trying to figure it out, it would have speed up my understanding of logs.</p>
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		<dc:creator>angeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>happy e day
&quot;thanks for this beautifull post.
 I loved it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happy e day<br />
&#8220;thanks for this beautifull post.<br />
 I loved it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Music and transformation geometry by Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im still having diffculty understading geometry</description>
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