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Friday math movie - Math education, a university view

Posted in Learning, Math movies, Mathematics on 14 Dec 2007.
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Mathematics lecturers are always complaining about the math abilities of their students.

This video is by Prof Cliff Mass from University of Washington.

Mass complains about the fact that he needed to “dumb down” his atmospheric sciences course because of the poor level of his students.

There is a trend where foreigners (Chinese?) are gaining entry to his courses because of their superior math abilties.

He rails against the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics’ “fuzzy math” approach. I have a problem with his criticism of the ‘discovery approach’ to mathematics. Designed properly and mixed with didactic approaches, the discovery method (or a problem-based approach) can be an effective way of getting students to see the point of the mathematics they are learning.

He also criticises the use of calculators rather than using ‘long division’. Hmmm - these are not absolutes. There are many times when it is insane to use a paper-based long division (but I’m not saying it should be thrown out altogether.)

However, I agree with most of what he says.

Anyway, I’ll let Prof Mass say his bit.

Reactions, anyone?

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Update: The video comes from WherestheMath.com, whose mission is:

To ensure that all Washington State students have an equal opportunity to compete successfully in the international economy by aligning Washington State standards, assessments and curricula to those of top performing nations in the world.

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  1. Peter said,

    June 21, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    I know this one, it’s been around, and I have a lot to say about it

    there’s something seriously wrong with the curriculum, but the video-maker has no solutions to the problems, only complaints

  2. zac said,

    June 21, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    yes, I thought you would have a lot to say about it!

  3. Peter said,

    June 21, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    this was part of a national “math war” in the US. I was involved in an initiative that removed a similar lousy curriculum from 20 schools.

  4. zac said,

    June 22, 2008 at 8:31 am

    There are 2 critical issues: (1) The curriculum and (2) How it is taught. Seems to me that a lot of the wars are really about confusion between the 2. I believe you can change the way it is taught without dumbing it down.

  5. Peter said,

    June 22, 2008 at 10:14 am

    These curricula generally require highly math-knowledgeable teachers.

    I used one (had to if I was on point for getting rid of it), and found that I could work with it but our teachers in this country are not, on the whole, able to do this so that is one problem.

    moreover, to make it work I had to put in tons of extra effort, beyond what a traditional program would have provided, and without much extra benefit

    all that being said, I strongly support doing the sorts of ‘extras’ that these curricula presuppose

    I am a non-traditional teacher who strongly advocates using a traditional math program, and then bringing all sorts of “modern” supplements…

  6. zac said,

    June 22, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    I guess I am much the same - traditional but with modern enhancements.

    Thanks for your input, Peter!

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