Comments on: Math of the Moors http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535 Mathematics, learning, computing, travel - and whatever... Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:48:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Hesed http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-192964 Hesed Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:14:18 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-192964 As it always was, the Albion can not bear to admit to the source of his establishment amongst the family of Nations, why that would mean the reason for slavery would be justified, the old wiping of the mind. Nowadays I smile, great article, typical discussion. @ Shaluh Kufu EL, ever heard of casting jewels apon swine? Lets no longer bother with the debatable. Lets end it like this WHITEHOUSE - CASA BLANCA Eastern government goes West Doh. \ Peace. As it always was, the Albion can not bear to admit to the source of his establishment amongst the family of Nations, why that would mean the reason for slavery would be justified, the old wiping of the mind. Nowadays I smile, great article, typical discussion. @ Shaluh Kufu EL, ever heard of casting jewels apon swine? Lets no longer bother with the debatable.
Lets end it like this
WHITEHOUSE – CASA BLANCA Eastern government goes West Doh. \
Peace.

]]> By: zac http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-181844 zac Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:26:42 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-181844 Hello Alan. Please tell us the YouTube link so we can evaluate this. Hello Alan. Please tell us the YouTube link so we can evaluate this.

]]> By: Alan H http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-181603 Alan H Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:14:28 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-181603 Hi I to have just come across this site by accident but was searching for more information on the Moors and Moorish History I have watched several moor teachers via utube clips one Moor lecturer mentioned that the Moon goes around the earth 13 time a year and that the earth goes around the Sun 12 times a year ok yes it sounds a little strange does any one hear now or understand who and why this moors teacher is teaching this and could it possibily be true Yes I keep a open mind but this has go me stumped Regards Alan from Australia Hi I to have just come across this site by accident
but was searching for more information on the Moors
and Moorish History I have watched several moor teachers
via utube clips one Moor lecturer mentioned that the Moon
goes around the earth 13 time a year and that the earth
goes around the Sun 12 times a year ok yes it sounds a little strange does any one hear now or understand who
and why this moors teacher is teaching this and could it possibily be true Yes I keep a open mind but this has go me stumped

Regards Alan from Australia

]]> By: zac http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-177253 zac Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:47:38 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-177253 Now, Allessandro, let me get this straight. It was OK for the Spanish to invade central and south America (and many other places), plunder them of gold and other valuables, torture and kill those who they couldn't convert, destroy cultures and generally behave abominably - and it was not OK for the Moors to invade southern Spain and bring with them a thirst for knowledge (while the Christian Church violently suppressed scientists) and a generally well-ordered society? Don't get me wrong here - forced occupation is wrong in most instances and I certainly don't regard the Muslim conquests as a Good Thing by any means. But the tolerance the Moors showed for other religions and other points of view was arguably greater than the intolerance shown by the Europeans to anyone who got in their way. And if, as you say, the Moors just took with them the knowledge of the Greeks and the Indians, that was way better than the Dark Ages that Europe had descended into. Now, Allessandro, let me get this straight.

It was OK for the Spanish to invade central and south America (and many other places), plunder them of gold and other valuables, torture and kill those who they couldn’t convert, destroy cultures and generally behave abominably – and it was not OK for the Moors to invade southern Spain and bring with them a thirst for knowledge (while the Christian Church violently suppressed scientists) and a generally well-ordered society?

Don’t get me wrong here – forced occupation is wrong in most instances and I certainly don’t regard the Muslim conquests as a Good Thing by any means. But the tolerance the Moors showed for other religions and other points of view was arguably greater than the intolerance shown by the Europeans to anyone who got in their way.

And if, as you say, the Moors just took with them the knowledge of the Greeks and the Indians, that was way better than the Dark Ages that Europe had descended into.

]]> By: Alessandro http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-176979 Alessandro Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:35:17 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-176979 I think a mathematician should remain a mathematician. Such a biased view of the Spain "reconquista" is only harming this website. The Muslim occupation of Spain all Southern Mediterranean countries was through war and an apartheid-like social system. It's much debated whether the muslims, "Moors" (the word comes from "black",darker skin, being many African, obviously; "mori" means dark, black in Italian) and "arabs" (actually mainly Iranians, not arabs) did really contributed significantly more than taking Indian and Greek knowledge and traditions and passing it on. That the Moors had great influence in the Renaissance is a total non-sense. Renaissance occurred mainly in Italy where music, architecture, banks and finance, arts, sciences were developed taking from the past knowledge (re-birth of mainly Greek and Roman and some Asian knowledge) and regiven new impetus with brand new discoveries and invetions in all fields. It happened mainly in Italy because the two superpowers (grossly France and Germany, in their contemporary look, were too busy in their struggle for dominace of the continent). That the moors look like victims is like saying that a country cannot defend itself from forced occupation. I have no time to enter the Inquisition topic, but there as well much is biased with the eye of an unscholarly person who looks at History with our modern eyes and not with those who lived in that time. I think a mathematician should remain a mathematician. Such a biased view of the Spain “reconquista” is only harming this website. The Muslim occupation of Spain all Southern Mediterranean countries was through war and an apartheid-like social system. It’s much debated whether the muslims, “Moors” (the word comes from “black”,darker skin, being many African, obviously; “mori” means dark, black in Italian) and “arabs” (actually mainly Iranians, not arabs) did really contributed significantly more than taking Indian and Greek knowledge and traditions and passing it on. That the Moors had great influence in the Renaissance is a total non-sense. Renaissance occurred mainly in Italy where music, architecture, banks and finance, arts, sciences were developed taking from the past knowledge (re-birth of mainly Greek and Roman and some Asian knowledge) and regiven new impetus with brand new discoveries and invetions in all fields. It happened mainly in Italy because the two superpowers (grossly France and Germany, in their contemporary look, were too busy in their struggle for dominace of the continent). That the moors look like victims is like saying that a country cannot defend itself from forced occupation. I have no time to enter the Inquisition topic, but there as well much is biased with the eye of an unscholarly person who looks at History with our modern eyes and not with those who lived in that time.

]]> By: Eliza http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-133403 Eliza Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:42:17 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-133403 Zac Is correct! You cannot rely on Wikipedia for accurate information. Anyone can, at any time,change what is written there and input their own words. When I heard of this I tried it and it worked. I reversed what I had fiddled with but not everyone does. There is a lot of debateable information out there from books written in the beginnings up to present time and everyone wants to be correct...this is how wars begin! Consider your source, be guided by wisdom and appreciate the voices of others even if you don't happen to agree. Zac Is correct! You cannot rely on Wikipedia for accurate information. Anyone can, at any time,change what is written there and input their own words. When I heard of this I tried it and it worked. I reversed what I had fiddled with but not everyone does. There is a lot of debateable information out there from books written in the beginnings up to present time and everyone wants to be correct…this is how wars begin! Consider your source, be guided by wisdom and appreciate the voices of others even if you don’t happen to agree.

]]> By: malbit http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-118403 malbit Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:17:31 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-118403 wow. ppl in this site are intense. wow. ppl in this site are intense.

]]> By: Shaluh Kufu EL http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-87939 Shaluh Kufu EL Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:37:40 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-87939 Peace. The facts said "It seems some people like to leave out key pieces of information in order to make what they say more believable." You are absolutely right, You have some researchers that have and still do leave key pieces of information out especially if it doesnot comply with conventional information. If certain information does not matchup with the popular mindset it will be shelved or in some extreme situations destroyed. This has been going on for a long period of time, it is a known fact that the history books need to be rewritten due to the many facts that have proven a lot of things to be outdated. Peace. The facts said “It seems some people like to leave out key pieces of information in order to make what they say more believable.” You are absolutely right, You have some researchers that have and still do leave key pieces of information out especially if it doesnot comply with conventional information.
If certain information does not matchup with the popular mindset it will be shelved or in some extreme situations destroyed. This has been going on for a long period of time, it is a known fact that the history books need to be rewritten due to the many facts that have proven a lot of things to be outdated.

]]> By: zac http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-77079 zac Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:49:29 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-77079 Thanks for the input, however I would suggest <b>not</b> using Wikipedia for such "proving" of facts. Those articles may be written (or edited) by people with an agenda. Thanks for the input, however I would suggest not using Wikipedia for such “proving” of facts. Those articles may be written (or edited) by people with an agenda.

]]> By: The Facts http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535/comment-page-1#comment-77030 The Facts Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:54:13 +0000 http://www.squarecirclez.com/blog/math-of-the-moors/535#comment-77030 Shaluh Kufu EL said, "The state of California was named after a Moorish/African women name Queen Califia/Khalifia. This is a fact and can be researched." I did some research and found that "Califia (aka Calafia) is the name of a legendary Black Amazon warrior queen, associated with the mythical Island of California. The US state of California is thought by some to be named after Queen Califia (see Origin of the name California)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Califia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_name_California It seems some people like to leave out key pieces of information in order to make what they say more believable. Shaluh Kufu EL said, “The state of California was named after a Moorish/African women name Queen Califia/Khalifia. This is a fact and can be researched.”

I did some research and found that “Califia (aka Calafia) is the name of a legendary Black Amazon warrior queen, associated with the mythical Island of California. The US state of California is thought by some to be named after Queen Califia (see Origin of the name California).”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Califia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_name_California

It seems some people like to leave out key pieces of information in order to make what they say more believable.

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